Episode 55: The Living Classroom That Inspires Better Learning with Sara Soliven-De Guzman

What if the best classroom was found in nature? In this episode of Good and Green, Chit Juan sits down with Sara Francesca Soliven-De Guzman, President of O.B. Montessori Center and steward of Preziosa Farms, to share how a school campsite evolved into a 16-hectare destination for experiential learning, regenerative agriculture, and environmental stewardship. Sara explains how hands-on experiences—from harvesting vegetables and caring for animals to planting native trees—help children and families develop a deeper appreciation for nature while inspiring future generations to live more sustainably.

GUEST BIO:

Sara Francesca Soliven-De Guzman is the President of O.B. Montessori Center and the steward of Preziosa Farms, a 16-hectare educational farm in Alfonso, Cavite. Building on her mother Dr. Preciosa Soliven's vision, she has transformed the farm into a destination for experiential learning, regenerative agriculture, and environmental stewardship. Through camping programs, farm experiences, native tree conservation, and sustainable design, Sara continues to inspire children, families, and communities to develop a deeper appreciation for nature and responsible living.

WHAT YOU’LL LEARN:

• How Preziosa Farms grew from a school campsite into an educational farm.
• Why hands-on experiences help children connect with nature.
• How regenerative agriculture and native tree conservation support sustainability.
• Designing a farm that balances education, hospitality, and environmental stewardship.
• Simple ways families can reconnect with nature and inspire future environmental advocates.

QUOTES:

• In my family, we don't do things just abruptly. —Sara Soliven-De Guzman
• You don't just cut the trees. They are like elements. They also have life. —Sara Soliven-De Guzman
• I would advocate for parents to start bringing their kids to farms or rural areas around the country. —Sara Soliven-De Guzman
• We're happy because we're able to inspire people and share what we know, what we can do to teach them more about nature. —Sara Soliven-De Guzman
• We have a total of 5,000 kilos of vegetables harvested each year. —Sara Soliven-De Guzman
• Be inspired by experiencing nature. We need to activate our wonder and awe towards loving Mother Earth. —Sara Soliven-De Guzman

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• Preziosa Farms on IG
• Preziosa Farms on FB
• Preziosa Farms Website

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Transcript

Chit Juan 0:02

Welcome to the Good and Green Podcast. I'm your host, Chit Huan. In this show, we share stories of farmers, food advocates, social entrepreneurs, and community leaders working to build a more sustainable future. Let's discover how to live lives that are truly good and green. Our guest today is Sarah Sollivan de Guzmán. She's the president of the 60-year-old OB Montessori Center, or OBMC. She continues the work started in 1966 by her mother, Dr. Preciosa Silverio Solliven. Currently, OBMC has five campuses in Fairview, Green Hills, Las Piñas, Santa Ana, and Angela City, Pampanga. Armed with her Montessori education from kindergarten to high school, Solliven de Guzmán went to Loyola Marymount University in Los Angeles, California for her tertiary studies. She graduated cum laude with a degree in A-B Psychology, minor in Asian Pacific Studies in 1992. She's got many awards. Among them is the Filipina Z Luminaries for her outstanding work and contribution in the field of education in 2023 by the Sonta Club of Makati and Environment. In 2008, Soliven de Guzmán and the team that included urban planner Paolo Alcazarin collaborated to transform a farm that her mother started, Preciosa Farms, by adding theme cottages, jacuzzi pools, and a fully trained service staff. Today we feature Sarah Solivenda Guzmán and her work on the 16 hectare Preziosa Far, as she continues to develop its grounds to provide a haven that whispers peace to the heart and mind of each student, seeker, or traveler while rejuvenating the body and spirit and offering delightful farm-to-table experiences. Welcome to the show, Sarah. Thank you, Chit, for inviting me. I mean, I know that you're busy with Obi Montessori, but I know that you also find time to relax and go to your farm. Preciosa farm. Yeah. Tell us about that.

SPEAKER_00 2:27

Okay, so first of all, my mother's Dr. Prasasu Sullivan. She's the founder of Obi Montessori Center. That's the name of the farm. With a zeilang. So we were trying to look for a name of the farm. And then laging hindi puma pa sasaka. So no binige, mama, I know the best thing for the farm. Then I said, we'll call it prachosa. And then tumik nashana hiyana shapera gustun navanya.

Chit Juan 3:00

That's nice. That's nice.

SPEAKER_00 3:02

But did you have this when your father was still around? Yes, yes. So we've had a farm for 30 years.

Chit Juan 3:09

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00 3:10

It was my first years in Obima Tessori as a teacher, and I would accompany our students to Maria McKilling in Los Baños for camp outs. And so, Seguro, I did that twice. And then on the third time, I told my mom, I'm never gonna, I mean, I don't wanna go there anymore because I need a safer space. Because it's open. I mean, it's a beautiful camp, but I think for our need, we need uh an enclosed space, but still feeling like farm forest and camping area. So my mom jumped on that idea because she always dreamt of having a farm, a farm school in for that matter. And so she went to Alfonso in around 1996, 95, then she saw a farm. She said, What about this farm? Tell me about it. Do you want it? Inspect it, go there. And then so I went there with my boots, Talahib Panon. And I said, I think this is the right place for us. So we purchased the farm from a family, and they also wanted to give it to like a possibly an institution that would take care of it and that would maximize its potential and share it with others.

Chit Juan 4:26

And it's beautiful. I mean, over 30 years, I'm sure you did it like a little at a time, but tell us how you know 16 hectares. I mean, for me, two, three hectares can take years to develop. What more 16? So you had in mind something for the school.

SPEAKER_00 4:44

We just really had in mind a camping site. And then since we have agriculture as a subject in Obi Matessori from grade four to six, and that's one hour a week. My mom said we can combine camping and farming and bring them out to a real farm, make them experience picking up vegetables, taking care of animals, and seeing how ornamental plants grow and trees. So we really just had those in mind. But as the years went by, I told my mom, because we also have retreats and life coaching or team building activities, I told her, can we use the farm for that? And she says, Of course we can. So I started to think of creating rooms, which are now the villas there. So we have 12 rooms available. Per room, we can accommodate 10 people for team building purposes. But for like families, we accommodate four to six fats per visit.

Chit Juan 5:46

So who helped you conceptualize a place that will be good for children, but will also be good for adults or in team building or corporates? Because as a child, I'm sure you know every natural thing there, I mean, is good for children, but you also had to develop it for multi-use, right?

SPEAKER_00 6:08

Yeah, so we established our need. So our basic need is farming, agriculture, horticulture. And then we also needed it for camping, and then we also needed VLAS for team building or retreats, right? So we established that, and we know that the students in Obi will use the facilities, but we also said that we should open it to others, it's not just for Obi. So it's really open for everyone. Although our idea is they have to make reservations, they just can't walk in because by doing that, we can save on our manpower and we can sustain the farm. So when we already had what we needed, our intention for the farm. In my family, we don't do things just abruptly, we really plan. It's good. We know Paulo Alcazarin. He's an urban planner and landscape architect. He also writes for the Philippine Star. So it made it easier for me to contact him. Then he visited the farm. We made discussions and all. So he gave me a beautiful zoning program and plan for the whole farm. And this includes also the structures, no, like electricity, water, even the waterways, it's sort of a farm that also protects mother nature.

Chit Juan 7:38

So I see that you're big believers in sustainability and organic farming. I saw it there during our visit. And then you have a complete ecosystem because I saw animals. Maybe you can tell our listeners how this came about. I mean, you said that you did it slowly, but if somebody was going to take inspiration from what you did for an educational haven, you know, where do they start? Do they start with the plants, with the animals or housing? Because you really actually intended it first as a campsite.

SPEAKER_00 8:13

Yes. So would you believe our campers they learn how to farm, but they also pick their vegetables for the meal that they're going to cook for lunch or dinner. And then we also have a fish pand with rev tilapia. We harvest almost 200 kilos per year. So the campers, they also, I know fish, clean the fish, and then grill it.

Chit Juan 8:39

Yeah, because Montessori students are known all over the world to know a lot of life skills, right? Yes. I know that children are taught skills that are not just academic but practical skills. So agriculture, I didn't even know agriculture was one of them, and I'm very happy. So tell us how the kids do that.

SPEAKER_00 8:59

Right. So for camping, you know, we don't really give them everything in a platter, it's camping, it's a survival activity. So we're there, we have the environment for there, the things that they need, but they do it themselves. The adults also keep out of it. One time we invited parents to join, but the parents ended up killing the joy of the kids. Because they were the ones doing it not for them and all. And so we said, maybe it's not gonna work with the parents at this point. Because we really want the kids to be independent.

Chit Juan 9:33

So at least now the kids knowing Montessori's system of education, you leave them alone, they fend for themselves, but it's in a safe place because you've closed the 16 hectares, and it's a very safe place that parents will not mind leaving their children alone in the wilderness.

SPEAKER_00 9:54

By the way, the 16 hectares, we only use six hectares. The rest are not yet developed. There's still a forest there where people can hike. I mean, down the hill. Because it's hilarious, our place.

Chit Juan 10:07

So the children are able to go around the six hectare.

SPEAKER_00 10:10

Yeah. They're able to go to areas where we know it's safe and they're guided. That's part of the planning that Paolo Alcazarin did. By the way, he also just updated the zoning of the farm two years ago because we added an events place. I don't know if you saw it when you went there. There's a structure that they were constructing that has a capacity of 200 to 250 people in that hall. You can have a conference, you can have a mini concert, you can have a wedding there, or sometimes I also put that up actually because when it rains, our campers can go there and camp out there.

Chit Juan 10:51

But the arboretum, tell us about the arboretum.

SPEAKER_00 10:54

So, are you familiar with Emmet Sarmiento? She's an advocate of Philippine trees, she's very close to our family because her brother Ulan, attorney Ulan Sarmiento, is our in-house consultant for legal matters. So one time, knowing that she loves Philippine trees, or you know, she's an advocate of that, we invited her to the farm. And then we had lunch, and then she said, Sara mag adkana arboretum of Philippine trees, I will help you.

Chit Juan 11:24

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 11:24

So I gave her a space, and then she, by the way, we already had around 500 native trees in our inventory.

Chit Juan 11:35

Okay, are these 500 unique or 500 as a number, but of some species?

SPEAKER_00 11:40

500 of some are the same, pero like yung variety nya iba iba. Okay. Right? So we made an inventory of the whole farm. So the total trees there is 500. Okay. Okay. But of course, like there's alingatong, there's Nara, there's Bignai. You know, some of them can be 50 or 20 or 10. But in the arboretto, she put 143 Philippine native trees. Okay. That was newly planted. Yes. I mean, that's been maybe almost eight years now, and the trees are grown. They're in their teenager years.

Chit Juan 12:20

She must have put all the endemic trees, all the brushes.

SPEAKER_00 12:24

The iron tree, you know, the iron wood tree, the hardest tree in I think in the world. So we also have um brochure for that. Then outside the kids can see the names. So my dream is to put a QR code, para when they put their phone, they can easily know the background of those trees. How nice.

Chit Juan 12:43

So I'm sure later on you will have seedlings to share with people.

SPEAKER_00 12:47

Yes, we are encouraged by Emma to propagate the trees because some of them are already endangered.

Chit Juan 12:55

Yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 12:56

And then by the way, our trees are regularly maintained also by Dr. Palihon. He's a UP forester.

Chit Juan 13:05

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 13:05

Cause you just don't cut the trees. They are like elements, you know, there they have also a life. So we have to know how to respect those trees around us. So Dr. Palihon gave seminars or regular workshops to our staff. But we also get him to help us cut and trim the trees down.

Chit Juan 13:27

Okay, so at least you know that you're preserving the tree and that you're not hurting it. But I'm sure the 500 trees around the property, you can also like do forest walks.

SPEAKER_00 13:38

Which is down the hill we have those hiking walks. So we have a total of 732 native trees now.

Chit Juan 13:46

Wow. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 13:48

And then every year we have planting activities by our students or guests.

Chit Juan 13:54

Planting in the property.

SPEAKER_00 13:56

Yeah. The guests do that. They get the opportunity to do that.

Chit Juan 13:59

Okay. So I guess you're also promoting the planting of native trees. Native. And then you're influencing children to love, I guess, nature by giving them that experience while they're young.

SPEAKER_00 14:15

Also, our guests, we also do that. Because in the school they have a lot of that already in their botany and zoology classes.

Chit Juan 14:22

I see. Okay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 14:23

So when they go to the farm, it's the real thing, Deba. They see it. And then they develop in them that sense of taking care or loving nature more. Because they're in that environment.

Chit Juan 14:35

Okay. How effective has this been for the children? Like, you know, from all your graduates over the last maybe 10-15 years, you said you've had the place for 30. Can you tell us a concrete example of how children were influenced?

SPEAKER_00 14:51

Well, I really believe that children, here in the city, the children they go to the mall, then we don't have that many parks. So I would advocate for parents to start bringing them rend to farms or outside rural areas around the country and even outside the country. Because that's the only way they can create a bond with nature. And then they're going to develop this respect for Mother Earth. And then maybe in their life career, they choose not to give back or let's say be engineers, but protect the environment around them.

Chit Juan 15:31

So actually, the farm is also open for, let's say, a family who wants to visit and want to let their kids roam around. Maybe we just need advanced notice to your staff or office. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 15:45

It really also started during the pandemic. Because the farm has expenses. And we had around 20 staff before the pandemic. And then I said, I cannot manage or sustain these 20 people. So we trimmed them down to actually seven. And then two guards. And then ging nine talagana comfortable kame. And then I said, how are we going to sustain it? There's no classes, there's no ganito. So what we did was one family per visit. So it became super full every day, even waitlisted, because families felt very secure that they were allowed to enjoy the farm during the pandemic by themselves without anyone with them. Any other stranger.

Chit Juan 16:36

That's really a treat because for somebody to enjoy six hectares of nature and see animals and see the forest, you know, so you're open to the public as long as it's pre-arranged.

SPEAKER_00 16:50

Yeah, as long as it's pre-arranged. We have na man our annual in social media like Facebook and IG and our website.

Chit Juan 16:58

So how does your mother like what's happening or how you've developed the place?

SPEAKER_00 17:03

Well, she started it and I continued it. I mean, I'm also hoping that my kids will continue the work. Bawa kasa mom ku kasi this is like more of a legacy project. I mean, it's not earning, it's just sustaining itself. But kame in our hearts, we're happy because we're able to inspire people and share what we know, what we can do to teach them more about nature, mother earth, plants, animals. Yeah, tell us the animals.

Chit Juan 17:33

You have animals on the farm.

SPEAKER_00 17:35

Yes, we have a fish pond with red tilapia. We have stingless bees.

Chit Juan 17:41

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 17:41

Right now we harvest only 20 liters per year.

Chit Juan 17:45

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 17:46

These are like medicinal honey, no? Yes. It produces medicinal honey. Then we have around 40 to 60 sheep at a time. That's what the best requires for the space we have. And then why do you like the sheep more than horses or cows? We my mom loves lamb. Ah, your mom? Yeah, she loves lamb. She likes to eat lamb. But you know, I saw that. I also like goat, no, especially. But the sheep kasa, they don't smell. And then they're very clean. I mean, it's bagai for the kids and the guests. And then they're very friendly. So are the sheep there as like pets or are they? They're there. We raise them, but we can only maintain a 40 to 60. So if they're beyond that number, we already they're already fattened.

Chit Juan 18:39

I see.

SPEAKER_00 18:40

They're kept in the cages to be fattened, ready for butchering or selling.

Chit Juan 18:46

Wow, that's nice. I mean, at least if you're a lamb lover, then you know what your lamb ate and how your lamb lived, which is a very good life.

SPEAKER_00 18:56

Yeah. Oh, by the way, we also have like I know chicken, ducks, and turkeys, but they're all together in a happy corral.

Chit Juan 19:53

All the winged ones are in a happy coral. Chicken.

SPEAKER_00 19:58

Actually, with the sheep also, but they have their own space there. And uh, I'm planning to also have layering, you know, parang chickens that lay eggs. Because I need it for the menu we have in the farm.

Chit Juan 20:11

Oh, that's right. Well, I started with five chickens and now there must be 30 of them just running around, get a few eggs a week, you know.

SPEAKER_00 20:19

Right, right.

Chit Juan 20:20

How about the onions? I saw onions.

SPEAKER_00 20:23

Yeah, so at one point I was challenged by, you know, the problem we had when they sold 800 per kilo onions to us. Remember that time? Yes, yes. At first it was 500, and then unbelievable, it went up to 800. And I'm like, what's happening here? And so I said, let's plant onions. I asked my group to plant onions, and then I just wanted to see the cycle of the onions, no. Two or three months' time na grown. So we were enjoying my whole community, our five campuses were enjoying onions at 100 pesos per kilo. We sold them attack during the time that people were buying it at 800.

Chit Juan 21:04

Yeah. And you also have garlic, by the way.

SPEAKER_00 21:07

Yeah, so we have a total of 5,000 kilos of vegetables harvested each year.

Chit Juan 21:14

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 21:15

For onions, it's 3,000. For ginger, it's 400. For sile, it's 300, for turmeric, it's 200. And then the rest mgatag 100 kilos, mga letus, talong, okra, gang.

Chit Juan 21:29

So you sell them in the campuses?

SPEAKER_00 21:31

First, we use them in the farm, and then we sell them in the campuses.

Chit Juan 21:35

Oh, that's nice. You have your own little distribution center for onions and garlic. And you know, my friends saw the garlic and they said, Mom, let's get that. Because that one can still be propagated.

SPEAKER_00 21:49

Yeah, oh yeah.

Chit Juan 21:50

Also propagated. And then we saw that you had the layering of soil. That was so interesting. That you had rammed earth. Yes, that you were making your own soil there. We saw the layers like lasagna.

SPEAKER_00 22:03

We advocate also different types of architecture or building. So this is called the rammed earth method. And architect Ronnie Yuma advocates that. So Ronnie Yuman started to help me landscape some areas of the farm. He was inspired by our farm. He bought a place in Alfonso. And because he's an architect, he advocates now rammed earth. So I have the entrance now of Prechosa is a rammed earth wall. And then in the events place, we'll have also a rammed earth beautiful wall there. And then the reception area farm, then rammed earth. It's just to remind people of you know the different methods. Of building, also and construction.

Chit Juan 22:52

Yeah, I saw a house of Cesdrilon, which was done using rammed earth. Maybe by the same guy, Ronnie Humang. I saw that you have onions, garlic, ornamentals, and you even had this fruiting shrub for like a miracle fruit for sugar or something.

SPEAKER_00 23:12

For diabetes, yeah. Yes. We have also fruits, right? Fruit trees. We have dragon fruit, which we produce 2,000 kilos per year, avocado, 1,000 kilo, rambutan, 3,000 kilo, durian, we have 100 kilos. And then the rest, iba even para marami para like papaya, some citrus, and all. But a self-sufficiency farm that we're trying to have. It's like everything is there.

Chit Juan 23:40

I know you have vegetables, you have livestock, and you have fruit trees. Yes. And you have 700 something native trees. I mean, it's really a paradise.

SPEAKER_00 23:50

We also have ornamental plants like for the plantitas and plantitos. But actually, those ornamental plants are also supplied to our five campuses.

Chit Juan 23:59

So actually, it's not just food, but even the ornamentals all come from the farm.

SPEAKER_00 24:05

Yeah, so we have ornamental plants for landscaping, and then we have ornamental plants for inside the house.

Chit Juan 24:11

And all of these, I think, are grown naturally. I mean, I know that your manager said that you're all believers in organic and natural farming. So who else is your inspiration? Who or what or which is your inspiration in developing the farm?

SPEAKER_00 24:28

So, oh, by the way, what you were mentioning, we call that the regenerative agriculture.

Chit Juan 24:34

That's right. That's right.

SPEAKER_00 24:35

Right. So because we need to take care of the soil, improve its quality and health so that it could produce more. And what I learned also is if you stay there overnight, you'll notice that yes, we have street lamps, but they're not so bright because we need to protect the insects. Because if they leave us, because if you have a well-lit compound, ma wa walan yung insects, they'll look for another space. So even to those smallest insects, we take care of them. Because we need them for our trees and our ecosystems.

Chit Juan 25:14

Wow, that's good. I should take note of that because a farm that is brightly lit, the insects will disappear, no?

SPEAKER_00 25:21

Yes.

Chit Juan 25:22

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 25:23

So I mean, we need to also explain that to our guests, also to respect the animals they see around, walking around and everything. You were asking about other people who help us or work with us. I have a friend, I think it's a common friend of Ross and I know.

Chit Juan 25:43

Yes, uh, Rita.

SPEAKER_00 25:45

So Rita Nazareno and Gab Li Chalko, they help us in designing the spaces.

Chit Juan 25:51

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 25:51

The cafe, the Summer House Cafe that you went to is a newly renovated space by Rita and Gab. So we want also to integrate art and design inside and also outside in the landscape. So we also are inviting Filipino artists to help us create areas in the public spaces around the farm. I want since we're putting energy there, you know, like Pau Alcazar and zoning and all. I want it to be also like a center where people, like students, can learn. Like architects, designers, engineers, they can learn methods that we use and it's there in a rand. So we're open to that.

Chit Juan 26:38

Actually, at the end of the day, it's all for education, but a very interactive one.

SPEAKER_00 26:43

Yeah.

Chit Juan 26:44

Because I guess your mother, you, you're both educators. But your father, being a famous writer and journalist, did you not also write?

SPEAKER_00 26:54

I am also wearing the hat of my dad up to this day for the Philippine Star and People Asia magazine. I stopped writing for personal reasons. But before he passed away, he asked me to write. So I wrote for 15 years in the Philippine Star.

Chit Juan 27:11

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00 27:11

Yeah, in the editorial section of the newspaper. And then two years ago, I think two years ago or three years ago, I stopped writing and I had to focus on the school and the other work that we have. So my dad went to the farm once, but unfortunately he passed away in 2006. I mean, he's always an inspiration. In the future of the farm, I want, I dream to have a center for press freedom or like a it's a center that is like a mini museum, but I can't call it a museum, so I'll call it a center. And it can be like a writer's retreat. Hub, yeah. My three advocacies there would be sustainability, education, and press freedom.

Chit Juan 28:00

That's nice.

SPEAKER_00 28:01

Because those are the three matters or concerns that our family gravitate towards.

Chit Juan 28:07

So sustainability, education, and press freedom. That's nice. And how you can put those three in the world all together in one place. But I can already imagine that you will attract writers or would-be writers, educators, even not just the educated, not just the students, but also teachers. And then, of course, environmentalists and sustainability advocates. So it's really a precious, preciosa, if I mistake, right? Thank you. Sarah, before we end, I want you to share with our listeners even just three tips good and green tips. Because you're good and you're green.

SPEAKER_00 28:51

Well, I said it a while ago. The first tip is to go out and visit farms. Okay. Try to get away from the city because going to a farm or a forest will rejuvenate your spirit, will remove your anxieties, and in some way will bring back your spiritual health and mental health. I believe. And then the fresh air, you'll get better oxygen. My second tip is be inspired by experiencing nature. Because we need to activate our wonder and awe towards loving Mother Earth. We really need it now because of climate change. So if you learn to want to plant, you know, go green, you're already activating your interest little by little and getting inspired by different platforms. And then the third and last, my kids, because they really advocate this and they always remind me. They said, Mama, when you construct things or when you renovate things, please protect the ecosystem by thinking of regenerative ways. Okay. So instead of making a pavement full of cement, you can think of other ways to advocate saving ecosystems. And I'm practicing that now. I said, you know, in your time, you can do more because me, I need to learn. I'm not a horticulturist, I'm not an agriculturist. Okay, but because of my love and respect for nature, I try to learn and open my mind to things that I can use.

Chit Juan 30:30

Spoken like a true educator, you don't just teach, but you also learn and you give time to learn new things. Thank you, Sarah. This has been so enriching and so inspiring that somebody who could probably just have, you know, traveled and did other things, but look at you. You're developing the farm, you're developing a center. And thank you for doing this for your students now, your future students, and I guess the next generations to come.

SPEAKER_00 31:03

So, how would they find you on social media? So for Pratchasa Farms in Facebook, it's Pratchosa Farms. Okay. In IG, it's also Pratchosa Farms. The website is prechosafarms.com.

Chit Juan 31:16

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 31:16

I wanted to say Langna, it's for everyone, huh? It's not for Obilang.

Chit Juan 31:21

So Preziosa Farms is open to the public as long as you prearrange the visit.

SPEAKER_00 31:28

Yes, yes. I think not many farms are named Preciosa. It's the Zay.

Chit Juan 31:33

Yes. So that's why they call it Preziosa, right? I mean it's pronounced like Italian. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 31:40

Yeah. It's just a twist because my mom said, don't use the da C change it para it's not her, but it's her.

Chit Juan 31:47

Oh, that's nice. That's nice. Well, send a regards to her and thank you for agreeing to share with us all your ideas and all your secrets and all your onions and garlic from Preziosa Farms. Thank you, Sarah.

SPEAKER_00 32:05

See you again. See you soon.

Chit Juan 32:06

Okay, see you soon. See you again at the farm. Thank you for listening to the Good and Green podcast. If you enjoyed this episode, please follow the show and leave a review. It helps more people find us. And feel free to share it with a friend. Until next time, keep it good and green.